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June 07, 2005

More than just intel coming from Apple

http://restiffbard.com [Restiffbard] Dave Hyatt has just made a new post on his Surfin Safari developer blog. Recently there was a big hub-bub about Apple’s cooperation with the opensource community. There were complaints that users of Konqueror were expecting the same updates that Safari gets instantly. The Konqueror devs fired back that Apple doesn’t make it that easy to integrate these changes.

Some slightly related from Technorati and Google.

[News for the Tech Minded] Konqueror Passes the Acid2 Test Too: An anonymous reader writes “A month after Safari , and after a lot of controversy, Allan Sandfeld Jensen announced today that Konqueror passes the Acid2 test too. Half of the patches could be merged from Apple’s Webcore, the rest needed to be rewritten from scratch.”

http://jaxn.org/blog [Jackson Miller] The Usability of Feeds: Jaffery Veen has posted about the usability of subscribing to feeds [via Dave Winer]. The topic of discussion is how easy Mac made it with Safari and OS X Tiger. I am a Mac user and am writing this from Safari on Tiger, so I know what he is talking about. For me the addition of is the killer combination (more important than email for me now).

Dot.kde.orghttp://dot.kde.org [Dot.kde.org] Apple Announces New "Safari" Browser: In kicking off the Macworld Expokeynote, Apple CEO Steve Jobs unveileda new Macintosh web browser namedSafari. Jobssaid the browser was"based on standards", "works with any Web site", has much-improvedperformance over IE (page-loading speed is "three times faster",JavaScript performs twice as fast and it launches "40% faster" - comparisonsto Netscape 7.0 shows similar performance gains on the Macintosh platform).The KDE connection: "[f]or its Web pagerendering engine, Safari draws on software from the Konqueror open sourceproject. Weighing in at less than one tenth the size of another opensource renderer, Konqueror helps Safari stay lean and responsive."The good news for Konqueror: Apple, which said that it will be"a good open source citizen [and] share[] its enhancements withthe Konqueror open source community", has today sent allchanges, along with a detailed changelog, to the KHTML developers.Congratulations to the KHTML developers for this recognition oftheir outstanding efforts. Update @22:34: Dirk Mueller haspostedan interesting mail from the Safari engineering manager as wellas his response.

http://www.kdedevelopers.org [Kdedevelopers.org] WebCore - KHTML - Firefox: Know your facts! | www.kdedevelopers.org: KDE is still working to integrate the Gecko rendering engine into its future Konqueror browser (not as a replacement, but as a switchable alternative to KHTML), and explore the the integration of making other Mozilla technologies into the KDE platform, like started by KAXUL .KDE will not stop this effort because of an ambiguous blog entry from one Firefox/Gecko developer. KDE on the contrary, still aims to cooperate with the Mozilla Foundation to advance the cause of Free and Open Source software. Mozilla can still reckon on the feedback and patches for bug fixing and improvement for their Gecko engine from the KDE camp.

http://www.kdedevelopers.org [Kdedevelopers.org] So, when will KHTML merge all the WebCore changes? | www ...: Because the sources have been diverging for several years, it’s unrealistic to expect that the Safari patches will be directly applicable to KHTML, and I frankly doubt that even having the Safari patch documentation would help very much after several years of Apple patches. This probably isn’t anything underhanded on Apple’s part. It’s just the way engineers work - they change the code to fit their needs, and rarely consider the impact on the old fork that they started from in the absence of an explicit mandate to stay compatible with the old fork.

http://www.dienstraum.com [Dienstraum.com] DIENSTRAUM | Safari: Ist für mich aber weblog-lebenswichtig. - - - Apple: Safari ... Weiß ja nicht, wie das mit Konqueror 2 (in KDE 2) war - und bin jetzt auch zu faul, ...

Weblogs.mozillazine.orghttp://weblogs.mozillazine.org [Weblogs.mozillazine.org] Inside Firefox - The Inside Track on Firefox Development: Not everyone wants to change the world, but Apple does - and although they may have done the least required of them in accordance with the licenses of the original source code, it was within their rights to do what they did, and no one should begrudge them for it. Safari's renderer is vastly superior to the KHTML used by Konqueror. Should I have to wait months or years for every patch that makes Safari more compatible to be done perfectly? No.

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Posted at June 7, 2005 11:50 AM

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